| Inside Technology: JM Dutton's
Aaron Lehmann
As a securities analyst specializing
in technology, it doesn't hurt to have both the academic background (undergraduate
degrees in Math and Physics, and Master's degrees in Theoretical Physics
and Operations Research) along with professional experience as a practicing
physicist/engineer for companies like Raytheon, Control Data and IBM.
Add to that an MBA, followed by more than 34 years experience as a securities
analyst, portfolio manager, director of investment research, and a consultant
to emerging growth companies, and you begin to get your arms around the
resume of Aaron Lehmann. JM Dutton & Associates' senior analyst specializing
in technology, Lehmann, was previously employed at The Bank of America,
Goldman Sachs (where he was elected to the Institutional All Star Team
in 1973), The Hartford Insurance Group, Westinghouse Investment Pension
Corporation, Chase Investors Management Corp., Steinhardt Partners, and
several other organizations.
How did you become involved and interested in technology?
My educational background included a bachelor's degree in physics
and math from Rutgers University in 1961 and a Master's degrees
in Theoretical Physics from Yeshiva University in 1963 and Operations
Research in 1967 from New York University. I also attended MIT graduate
school in naval architecture and operations research to supplement my
knowledge in the areas I was working in at that time. I later earned
an MBA in finance to round out my investment research education.
I started my professional career as an electrical engineer at various
companies including Raytheon, Sylvania Electric, IBM, Control Data and
fundamental research of materials at UniRoyal. I worked on radar systems,
anti-submarine war systems, cryogenic materials research, laser systems,
communications systems, and a variety of other interesting things, such
as information retrieval technology when I was at IBM, which was the forerunner
of the Internet. So with my diversified background in technology, I began
my investment career as an analyst with an emphasis in the technology
area.
What areas in technology did you focus on?
I began my career in 1969 at the Bank of America in San Francisco as a
Senior Research Analyst covering technology. I was responsible for all
areas of technology, which included electronics area, computers area,
software companies, office equipment companies, aerospace and a number
of conglomerates. Most aerospace companies had become conglomerates and
it was actually this area which strengthened my researching abilities,
since most conglomerates consisted of many entities, and were non-technology
in nature. I had to learn a lot of those industries, in depth, very quickly
in order to properly analyze the respective business fundamentals and
the financials of those operations.
You became an Institutional All Star early in your career. How
did that come about?
My reputation was made first for recommending selling stocks rather than
buying, which is almost unheard of in the institutional world. When I
joined Bank of America, I recommended selling every single technology
stock that we owned; the majority of them declined by at least 50 percent,
with some as much as 80 percent. I really established my credibility when,
eight months later, I reversed my sells into buys and recommended some
of those very same names on the long side, including Hewlett-Packard,
National Semiconductor, Texas Instruments, Motorola, and IBM--about 18 companies
altogether. The stellar performance of my recommendations put me on the
Bank of America map and my reputation was known to the vice-chairman of
the B of A, which led me doing some corporate banking work. At the same
time I gained the recognition of a lot of investment firms because I went
against the grain both times in a very short time--first on the
sell side and then on the buy side--and was right in both cases.
A few years later at Goldman Sachs, I wrote a position paper on the aerospace
industry. The 70-page document that I wrote was considered to be too
long and the Director of Research had me reduce it to 15 pages. However,
many of the industry executives that I had sent it to thought that it
was fantastic. In fact, Dr. Henry Singleton from Teledyne, who was one
of the true geniuses of the conglomerate period, and perhaps the most
successful one at that, asked if he could send a copy of my report to
every congressman and senator in the United States because they needed
to be educated on the workings and condition of the Defense industry.
Goldman also allowed me to send draft copies, without the Goldman Sachs
endorsement, to those clients who requested it and needed a more in-depth
analysis. So the draft report got much more mileage then the actual report
that Goldman let me publish. The final report had about a dozen recommendations,
many of them subsequently appreciating between 5 and 100 times from their
recommended price. That led to my being elected in my second year at Goldman,
in 1973, to the Institutional All-Star Team in the aerospace sector.
What enables you to find these companies and be able to evaluate
and value companies as well as you have?
In brief, I do a tops-down analysis rather than a bottoms-up analysis.
A bottoms-up analysis really confines one to initially picking companies
before having any insight into the macro factors. I'd rather find
companies from the top down by getting an overall picture from an economic,
demographic, and geopolitical perspective before making investment judgments.
Economics, of course, is an overriding factor, and I look at various projections
by economists and form my own view on what I read, since most market projections
tend to be wrong most of the time.
As an example, assuming that there's a trend towards the elderly
because of living longer and so forth, I might want to examine this trend
and see what companies sell to that market--the health care area, pharmaceuticals,
generics, the rehabilitation area, assisted living, nursing homes, etc.
Then I would find the best companies, and why they are considered the
best companies and determine the validity of the data, trying to understand
the accounting and all the other information that is contained in company
documents. What we've seen in the last two years with the Enrons
of the world is nothing new, by any means. It's been going on forever.
It's just a question of how you find out about it. The way I find
out about the fundamentals is to see if a company's growth rate
is at 15 percent, and the industry is growing at only 3-5 percent, something
is wrong somewhere. What is the company doing so dramatically different
that allows them to grow at 4 or 5 times the industry growth? If you're
miles apart from the rest of the industry, something is going on that
doesn't necessarily agree with normality. So I then look carefully
for anomalies within that area that will enable me to make the correct
decision about that company.
Do you look at other research?
If there's a lot of coverage, I like to see what the Street has
to say, not that I necessarily believe what the Street has to say. I like
to see what these people are saying after I've done my initial analysis.
More often then not, I don't necessarily go with the consensus view
but come up with my own view, which is often significantly different from
the Street. That's after I've done the appropriate due diligence
and analysis on the industry and of course on the micro level of the company.
I examine the public documents and interview management in order to understand
where they have been and more importantly where they think they're
headed. I like to understand how they expect to outgrow the industry and
what they're doing that's so different. There are rare occasions
when that can certainly happen, and again I look for red flags. Assuming
there are no obvious red flags or missteps here, then I go to the next
step and come up with an estimate and a valuation. How does this company
compare with its peer group? How does this compare with the overall market?
Was it justified that dot.com companies sold at the multiples of revenues
that they did? In the end, obviously, it was not. So I stayed away from
them. In 1973-74, conglomerates were selling at 20-50 times earnings, although
their earnings growth was not substantially better than the S&P 500
companies. [Was this justified?] The clear answer was no and the subsequent decline to the norm
created numerous buying opportunities in 1974. Consequently, using my
approach I have been able to identify may successful ideas over a period
of years by being willing to be different from the consensus.
Is there a way you approach technology companies that's
different than you would other companies?
There are three essential ingredients that are common to every company,
whether it's technology or non-technology, and that is what I call
my three M's: money, marketing, and management. Every company you
deal with has to have the money to finance what it does, the management
to make sure that it comes about, and it has to be able to market -- sell
-- that product to the marketplace. If they don't have those three
components, just walk away.
In technology, you have a fourth ingredient, which is crucial: the ability
of a company to be able to reinvent itself every so often so it may move
ahead of the curve in technology; this requires a lot of effort and spending
on research and development. If you become a "me-too" company,
that's okay, provided that me-too company is cheap enough in the
valuation scheme of things and that has the resources to survive. If the
company is in a service business it may be able to operate successfully.
The service side includes many IT companies that engaged as problem solvers
and don't need to be on the leading edge. They allow IBM, Dell,
Sun Microsystems, Cisco or others to come up with the hardware for them
to solve their problems. However, if a company is in an innovative field
like in the semiconductor area or equipment area, or the computer field,
it has to be able to be one step ahead of the curve in order to compete
with the other companies in its industry sector.
So I look for a company that has those three M's. I look for a company
that has the technology that can stay on the forefront with competitors,
or alongside competitors at the very least. Price is also a major determining
factor in any investment. Believe it or not, we saw this recently in another
industry, the airlines, when American Airlines was able to settle with
the unions, avoiding bankruptcy--the stock nearly tripled. So there is
a price where you buy a stock, and you have to be able to assess whether
that price is the correct price, given the company's position fundamentally.
A technology company is no different and must, in fact, be on the leading
edge or, if on the service side, be able to compete.
When you talk about price, I would imagine there are a lot of
companies that are getting close to the right price in technology.
Let's put it this way--many of these companies both large and small
have cut back their employee levels drastically, some by as much as 40
percent. The revenues have gone down by almost as much or more. So the
issue really now is where is the recovery coming from? And are they still
the same companies that they were, in terms of their ability to compete
in the future? Markets change. If you go back into the 1950s, the telephone
industry was hot. AT&T was a hot stock. Of course we know what happened
to AT&T in the ensuing years--it became a cold stock. So, who says
that Dell, Cisco, or Broadcom, etc., needs to be the company of the future?
They have to reinvent themselves.
3M is a classic company that reinvents itself every few years. They come
up with a host of new products, which is a major reason for the company
being one of the finest companies in America. They give responsibilities
over to their line managers, appoint many vice presidents, and have excellent
short- and long-range planning, so they know where they are going. Unless
you know where you're going, how do you get there? There are many
wonderful companies that looked like they would never decline during the
bull market of the 1990s but have since seen their business slow down
precipitously and haven't come up with new products or solutions
to problems, and have fallen by the wayside. So you really have to take
a micro look at each company, and each industry to determine what's
going on and likely to happen.
You take a look at Lucent, Nortel or Ericsson, whose stocks were 10-20
or even 40 times higher (in the case of Lucent, the stock went from the
$70s to the low single digits): These companies may never come back on
the grand scale that they had before because their industry changed. We
went from undercapacity to overcapacity in the telecommunications field.
So it will be quite a while before Corning Glass and the other companies
in that space turn around. Even so, Corning's stock already has
quadrupled off of its bottom. I'd argue that the multiples of the
technology stocks are still extremely high. The people who are projecting
all kinds of growth in earnings are smoking something strong. Earnings
may grow handsomely from their depressed levels, but the multiples are
still too high relative to the kind of numbers that some of these people
are projecting. What will happen, I believe, is that those companies that
can rise to the surface will get premium multiples because they're
the dominant players in their group, and an investor will make a ton of
money in technology stocks if one selects a basket of these companies
that not only have the ability to survive but will thrive because of the
measures they took during the lean times. Over the next two years, I think
a properly selected portfolio in technology stocks should be up no less
than 50 percent and some cases well over 100 percent.
Looking at your top-down analysis, where would you be focusing
your investing or your research right now?
We are now in a time that is extremely difficult to assess. We have very
high corporate, personal, federal, state, and local debt levels, extremely
high spending requirements to fund the military efforts and the rebuilding
of Iraq, a weaker US dollar, record level trade deficits, shrinking demand,
low consumer confidence, and a high unemployment rate. Many states are
in dire straits and don't have the taxing capacity of the federal
government. At the same time, we're looking to have a tax cut, which
on some level is positive but may not be the best thing right now. Although,
I'm very much in favor of tax cuts, because I think they create stimulus,
I think it has to be in the right areas. Offsetting these negatives are:
historically low interest rates, low investor expectations, and about
$7 trillion of cash on the sidelines.
If you're looking to see what looks promising based on a top-down
analysis in technology, I would look for companies where there's
going to be a rejuvenation of the cycle. Operating capacities are at a
very low rate and many companies have no reason yet to enhance capacity,
but I do think selected semiconductor equipment companies could be in
a good position, as the next generation of semiconductor problems will
require new equipment. I think a company like Intel at some price could
be very interesting. Intel has emerged as a stronger company than before
the decline that started in 2000. Texas Instruments could be interesting.
Motorola is at a price level which may make it quite attractive; however,
it operates in industries which have serious problems that they have
to overcome. IBM is not cheap right now; it had to redefine itself. Today,
it must rely on its services business as the engine for growth,
as opposed to being just a mainframe or a server company. The services
business and consulting business has taken on a new dimension at IBM,
and it is very crucial that IBM emerges and defines itself as to where
it's going. It has cut back as far as it can, because right
now they're down to bare bones and appear to be operating efficiently.
The major issue, as we see it, is can IBM show significant overall top line
growth and what is the P/E for the stock.
Of the smaller companies, I'd like to stick with some of the leaders.
There's controversy over whether Sun Microsystems will be able to
compete in the next generation. There are people who say no, but I would
say that there's a good chance, 70/30, that they will emerge in
a different form as an interesting and successful company. I think Cisco
is a survivor and will probably thrive, but the question is at what level
does one make a commitment. There are many small companies that most people
haven't heard of that I think are going to be interesting stocks.
Many have niche markets. I think it's important to find where you
want to be as an investor. Take a look at the IT service companies like
EDS, which has undergone tremendous hardship. At some point in time, EDS
and a host of other service companies could be interesting and be successful
because a lot of companies don't want to do it themselves and outsourcing
eliminates a lot of fixed costs for them, like benefits packages, which
kill a lot of companies. Companies like Flextronics could be interesting
on the manufacturing side. There are a host of companies that are potentially
interesting.
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